Mary Sues

AnShino · Post by **AnShino** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 10:15 pm

don't they just turn you off to a fic? anyway, that's not what the purpose of this thread is, lol. i wanted to ask, what makes a character mary sue? i want to write original fics and i want to make sure my main characters are NOT mary sue. also, i believe all of my fics include (in some way) one (or two...maybe three

) orginal character(s).

kyoki · Post by **kyoki** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 6:55 am

What is a Mary Sue?

AnShino · Post by **AnShino** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 4:39 pm

Gary Stu/Mary Sue = Character inserted into an already created universe (anime, movie, book, videogame, TV show, et cetera) who is better at everything the characters already in that universe do, is loved by everyone (even some of the villians) and, in the sad, unthinkable of event of his/her death, will be mourned forever and ever by every character in the series (good or bad.)

Calla Lily · Post by **Calla Lily** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 5:06 pm

I hope this helps:
<a href="http://www.subreality.com/marysue.htm">The Mary Sue Society</a>
<a hrefl="http://www.subreality.com/marysue/explain.htm">What is a Mary Sue?</a>
<a hrefl="http://missy.reimer.com/library/marysue.html">The Original Mary Sue Litmus Test</a>

~Calla.

Calla Lily · Post by **Calla Lily** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 5:08 pm

Dang it, the last two links broke. *grumbles*

<a href="http://missy.reimer.com/library/marysue.html">The Original Mary Sue Litmus Test</a>
<a href="http://www.subreality.com/marysue/explain.htm">Mary Sue: An Explanation</a>

Better work..... ><'

Tomorrow · Post by **Tomorrow** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 5:22 pm

Oh... now I know.

I've heard the term before, knew it carried a negative connotation, but I could never pinpoint a "good" definition of a Mary Sue. Thanks for the links, Calla. They really helped.

The mystery is solved.

~Tomorrow

AnShino · Post by **AnShino** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 6:09 pm

WoOt! links =3 thanks Calla

melrose_stormhaven · Post by **melrose_stormhaven** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:49 pm

I don't like Mary Sues that are so obviously mary sues. Incorporating yourself in your character is nice, but not all the time!

Chibi-sitter · Post by **Chibi-sitter** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 6:28 pm

[quote]So you're scratching your head and wondering who the heck Mary Sue IS, hm? Well, "Mary Sue" is an unkind term used to describe a certain kind of character, a style of writing. She (or he) is created to serve one purpose: wish fulfilment. When a writer invents someone through whom he/she can have fantastic adventures and meet famous people (fictional or real), this character is a Mary Sue. (We don't have a name for the male version -- suggestions?)[\quote]
I got a suggestion for a name of the male version;
Gary Lu?

melrose_stormhaven · Post by **melrose_stormhaven** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 6:46 pm

There's already one. Gary Stu, I think.

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