FMP* Character discussion & Who's Your Favorite?

[trekkiexb5]

Yeah, Tessa does have her good points. And you make a good point... but... she still needs to be watched. *swats her hands from Sousuke*
I really think they need to go into everyone's background more. They only seem to describe the background origin of the Urz Team and Sousuke. Maybe they'll do the others?

I forgot something here, and as a fellow military brat, you may understand. While the captain may have thoughts of Sousake, I am 95% sure it doesn't go the other way. WHy? IT's unproffesional for an enlisted (he's a sargent, making him an enlisted) to be involved with an Officer. Taking in consideration this is a militia, but it has ALOT of former military personnel from other nations and most if not all follow the "No Fraterzation" rules. Why? Because it destroys morale and good form within an organization.

Tessa shouldn't be doing that. But she is a teenager in an unusual situation. And she is protected by the fact the the TDD is her creation and she is a Whispered.

Sousake, however, plays the soldier way too well. Things like fraterzation would be something he would have learned to be bad at a young age, considering his background. He could use his relationship with Kalidin to his advanage (advancments, cushy desk jobs, etc.) but both would find the idea wrong and distasteful. They are both soldiers in the purist sense.

Therefore, I have never worried about Tessa. She doesn't stand a chance. Sousake labels her in is mind as "Captain" and would probly never see past the title.

Kaname, however...

[miz_lou]

Thanks! I try. But i tend to be long-winded. Actually, the URZ team really doesn't have much of a background, except Kurtz is German who lived in Japan for a while (voice actor, perhaps?) and Melissa is a Chinese-American, with a dishonorable discharge from the Marines. Actually, without the info on her, I would guess she was an American Marine, she acts like one. Drunk and immature off-duty: cool and proffessional on the battlefield, with compassion and caring for his fellow Marines.

As for being a Military-brat, well, I'm one (and in the service, also) and anyone who has ever been part of the military one way or another (regardless of gender) either hate or like the military. Look at your anime choices: 'pretty boy' and 'kawaii' anime aren't my style. Military anime are my favorite.

You think you're long winded? Check out my last couple posts on this thread ^^;; *giggles* and this one will be a long post too *fair warning*
I love it when someone is as passionate as I ^^

Military anime all the way *nods* I totally hear you there

I remember you being a MB and in the service from Perfect Soldier's thread I told you to check out

Pretty much, the background info on the Kurz team came from the hot tub convo with the girls on the De Danaan before Gauron was picked up. They talked about Kurz going after Melissa ^^; and Sousuke being able to pilot the AS without the legs. Lacks much, yes, but still gives us background on the origins (more than I can say for uhm, let's say, the origin of the Whispered?) and Sousuke's background even more in Wind Rises in the Homeland (eps 15-17).

I forgot something here, and as a fellow military brat, you may understand. While the captain may have thoughts of Sousake, I am 95% sure it doesn't go the other way. WHy? IT's unproffesional for an enlisted (he's a sargent, making him an enlisted) to be involved with an Officer. Taking in consideration this is a militia, but it has ALOT of former military personnel from other nations and most if not all follow the "No Fraterzation" rules. Why? Because it destroys morale and good form within an organization.

Tessa shouldn't be doing that. But she is a teenager in an unusual situation. And she is protected by the fact the the TDD is her creation and she is a Whispered.

Sousake, however, plays the soldier way too well. Things like fraterzation would be something he would have learned to be bad at a young age, considering his background. He could use his relationship with Kalidin to his advanage (advancments, cushy desk jobs, etc.) but both would find the idea wrong and distasteful. They are both soldiers in the purist sense.

Therefore, I have never worried about Tessa. She doesn't stand a chance. Sousake labels her in is mind as "Captain" and would probly never see past the title.

NCOs all the way *giggles*

But yeah, I was thinking that too. As a MB I have seen the way Tessa acts and you're right. I totally agree with you. It's just the possessive side of me *shy* I kinda get that way with any major anime couple.

And honestly, I think subconsciously Kaname knows too, although, she is just as insecure as any teenager about those kinds of feelings (she doesn't even admit them to herself). I say this becuase during the 24th episode, when the Captain is standing in front of the vending machines depressed Chidori tells Sousuke to go and tell her. Now what he says, I don't know, but Chidori isn't as possessive as I am about it. (shows her maturity) She knows that Sousuke works with the captain and is all too serious by nature... he views Tessa as his superior. (*squee* this also shows that Chidori understands Sousuke better than anyone else)

Along those lines, I have always given Tessa props for being a great Captain, especially for her age.

Tessa is thrown into situations that cause her to have to act like a civilian, as any uniformed military member is, but when it comes to her civilian side, she sorely lacks. It's kinda like those who continue on in the military for fear of facing the real world, simply becuase they don't know how to deal with "normal civlian" life. (and this applies to college students & getting a job too, but for this topic, military)

Well, that's the kind of sense I get from Tessa's character. It's funny, she always felt superior growing up with her brother but she is now the commanding officer of a submarine. Since Tessa's always grown up the underling, I could imagine it would be quite difficult for her to completely adjust to a full out, high ranking military member.

However, just as Tessa is a teenager in a unique situation, so is Sousuke.
*kills self for the evil thought*

However, I think that Sousuke downplayed the Captain's concern enough in the first episode and that he mentions that he wonders about Kaname's feelings ("It looks like she doesn't hate me") enough to convince me that he has feelings for Kaname, just doesn't understand them quite yet. I'm sure Kurz will be more than willing to help out in that department... XD

Kaname, however...

*glomp* ^^ I absolutely agree with you there too!

[trekkiexb5]

However, just as Tessa is a teenager in a unique situation, so is Sousuke.

Exactly! They ARE in a unique situation. Chidori is the normal one here, so is the other members of the cast. BOth (from what I understand) have unusual backgrounds: Tessa was a gifted child, and probly skipped a few grades, not to mention most likely very few friends. She is TRUELY lonely as the captain.

Sousake, on the other hand, was a Japanese born(?) and raised in Afganistan and was probly seperated from his family at an early age (I'm betting they were Japanese or Japanese American arcceologists or relief workers, doctors, or missionaries. How else can he get into a country that has major issues with foreigners?) HOWEVER, he did not really have a childhood, entering manhood in his single digits. THe idea of doing anything without being concerned about being killed or letting your guard down is alien to him. Tessa, at least had a stable childhood and opportunity to be a child, if only for awhile.

You think you're long winded? Check out my last couple posts on this thread ^^;; *giggles* and this one will be a long post too *fair warning*
I love it when someone is as passionate as I ^^

Welllll.... I think we scared everyone else off, forthey cannot compete with out wordage!

[miz_lou]

Very nice comparison of Tessa and Sousuke! Very true about Sousuke's background. Another thing that convinces me of his feelings about Chidori is that he looses his cool over such a "simple" (well, compared to everything else he's been through) situation where Chidori is concerned. Oh, that and... willing to give his life for her in the forest XD XD

Gawd, and I love how Sousuke trusts Kaname over his instincts in Episode 7 (my FAVE episode!!) by closing his eyes in front of the enemy! *fangirl faint*

I get depressed when watching the Wind Rising in the Homeland trilogy; how Sousuke was betrayed, but it's something that does happen. It's always sad to me.

I often wonder why Kaname's father and sister are in America and Chidori is in Japan alone... did I miss something? *I swear I've watched the DVDs thousands of times and the mangas don't tell me anything*

Welllll.... I think we scared everyone else off, forthey cannot compete with out wordage!

LMAO ^^;; That and this isn't a very active forum either *sniffles* so sad.
But for those who are here: sorry guys Please feel free to join, this thread is for everyone and every opinion :D Agree, disagree? Tell us! We don't bite

Uhms... discussion... lesee... Anyone think Kurz is hot?

[trekkiexb5]

I often wonder why Kaname's father and sister are in America and Chidori is in Japan alone... did I miss something? *I swear I've watched the DVDs thousands of times and the mangas don't tell me anything*

I belive there something about Kaname to start over after her mother died. She appartentaly had a rough time dealing with it. She needed the space from her family. Also, though not the norm by any means, alot of students move into apartments by themselves due to the fact the school is either too far away from home or, parents live overseas or on a different island. They are usualy looked over by relatives.

[miz_lou]

I imagine it would be very difficult for her to deal with the loss of her mother... but wow, that's good to know, I didn't know that a lot of students take up their own residence

^.^ thankies much

Poor Kurz isn't getting any bites *laughs* hard to imagine with the perv he is

[_sigil]

What? I wuw Kurz. He's the generic perv almost every anime series seems to have. But a generic perv with benefits.

But my fav character in the series is Kalinin. There are no words to describe him. I fell in love with him ever since I saw the first episodes. He is just too damn cool.
: ) I guess I have a thing for father figures.

Quite frankly I like most of the characters in FMP, I even have heart for Gauron, for he is such a persistent pain in the arse. Plus he's a psychopath. How could I not heart him?

As for the military brat -issue, I feel out of place seeming as I'm a damn pacifist to begin with. But I Did grow up watching Metuselah old eps of Macross.

[trekkiexb5]

But my fav character in the series is Kalinin. There are no words to describe him. I fell in love with him ever since I saw the first episodes. He is just too damn cool.
: ) I guess I have a thing for father figures.

Welcome Sigil! And I agree, he definitly the father figure for the show. btw, I'll look the your suggestion on the Nightwish music on the other thread.

Nothing wrong being a pacifist. I just grew up within a military family.

[miz_lou]

Hee hee, that the thing about military fams, you don't choose 'em I hated it growing up, but now I wouldn't change my experiences for the world. There's nothing wrong with them, just hard to appreciate when you're HS age trying to make friends and being uprooted all the time. But I'd have to say, I wouldn't be the same person without those experiences.

However *ahem* so, Kalinin. He is very much a father figure, especially to Sousuke. I wonder how Kalinin and Tessa would get along. Unfortunately, Kalinin is pretty neglected, I'm glad they had something with him (the A21 terrorist group eps). And Mardukas we know purty much zilch about.

lmao, Sigil -good point- props to psychopaths! Where would we be without them? They always make things interesting ^^ And Gauron is a terrorist in the truest sense of the word. He very much knows how to play with emotions.

[trekkiexb5]

However *ahem* so, Kalinin. He is very much a father figure, especially to Sousuke. I wonder how Kalinin and Tessa would get along. Unfortunately, Kalinin is pretty neglected, I'm glad they had something with him (the A21 terrorist group eps). And Mardukas we know purty much zilch about.

Here's my take on Kalinin: Theory: Kalinin was an USSR officer sent to Affhganistan to fight. Didn't agree with the USSR policy of couquering the country, went AWOL. Found american CIA agents who promised him (and others) sauncuarty in USA if he did missions for USA. Ran into Kashim (Sousake) when he was about 9-10 years old. Left with Sousake when he was 11-12 years old. Joined Mithirl shortly after.

Well, that's what I think.

As for Mardukas, I think he was a British Sub captain that was quietly retired for some issue. Most of the staff are experts or talented in whatever fields they work in, I'm sure he was a very good skipper who made a mistake. His disgrutaled behavior is propbly due to the fact he has to baby-sit a 16-year-old captain. British are stubbron but very steadfast (sorry Beer Monster! ) since he promised himself to Mithirl, by god, he was going to do is duty, damn them all!