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pilot03 wrote:I.........LOVED...........THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MORRRRRREEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!


More?? Are you nuts!?

I just posted!!! *dies*

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My questions! My questions! You didn't get to my questions!

Why did Trowa go over to the "bad side"?

Does Relena have _that_ much of an effect on him?
:o Wow. She's got a lot of power!
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Andrea wrote:
pilot03 wrote:I.........LOVED...........THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MORRRRRREEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!


More?? Are you nuts!?

I just posted!!! *dies*
Quote the Pilot....Give me more!!!

Yes. I am nuts. *cracks whip*
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The Angry Angel wrote:Why have a family when you're going to be a autocratic patriarch? Family has a very specific meaning; and love is the epitome of it. If you're a patriarch, or matriarch with an attitude like Daddy's, then why the hell does he have a family in the first place? Relena should be a slave for all his tyrannical mindset and behavior!!!
Well, there are many logical possibilities. One, for example, people have different ways of loving. And we don't even have to go that far, let's say 'caring'. People care in different ways and measures. Perhaps you don't necesarily have to love someone, but you do respect them and honor their wishes. That's caring enough.

There are other cases, and here I know I?ll sound cold-hearted?where parents just don?t know. Perhaps it?s not because they don?t ?love-, but more of an issue that they don?t know how to. They think that just by spoiling their kids, by letting them do whatever they want, they?re doing their jobs.

Now, boot that second scenario with a wealthy lifestyle and cold-blooded people who eat up appearance and attention? You get the Peacecrafts and Kara Barton. Bloodsuckers.

Relena?s the heiress to their fortune; she?s the only daughter so she gets to control their business and affairs once they retire. It?s common knowledge, even if it?s unpractical and antiquated, for families, especially European families, to prearrange marriages between two families (lots of things in common such as background, lifestyle, traditions, etc.; it be because of honor, tradition or financial convenience).

Monster. That made me crazier than Trowa's losing it.

Relena--GET OUT OF THAT CAR!!

Just leave. No matter who Trowa is--(my armpiece)--alarms should be going off everywhere!

Seriously! Get out of the limo, get out of the City, get out of the job. When that kind of treatment is shoved on you, just leave, babe. Based on Trowa's behavior, he deserves to be left hanging.

Now....if he cleans up his act or the whatnot forgive-me-i'm-on-my-knees, then maybe you can start speaking to him again.

Poor, poor Relena.

Trowa, YOU BETTER START YOUR OWN ROSE PLANTATION, CONSIDERING THE AMOUNT OF ROSES IT'LL TAKE TO GET HER TO EVEN LOOK AT YOU, AGAIN!!
But see? I thought his behavior was only logical. The downside when you write from one character?s perspective is that it?s difficult to know what all the other characters are feeling and thinking. I threw a few hints here and there about Trowa finding out Relena has slept with someone else.

Now, along the story, I?ve pictured and tried to convey that picture of Trowa being the ultimate alpha male in the pack. He?s overconfident, arrogant, a player, rich and pompous? All the no-no?s. Yet, he?s sexy, charming, handsome, and a gentleman. He has good and bad, which lures women to him.

Then we have Relena, she?s cold, and hardworking. She doesn?t like getting involved, yet isn?t too averse to having some fun now and then. Maybe she thinks she doesn?t need someone by her side, an emotional link. It?s pretty clear when she has that conversation with her mother on chapter one. Even her mother confirmed it. Perhaps Relena doesn?t fall in love so easily, especially after she?s used to men lusting after her. Then again, she doesn?t give them the chance to really start something.

THEN, we have them, Relena and Trowa, two perfect human beings (in the physical sense). Trowa?s been after Relena for almost five years, and she?s never given them the chance. What we don?t know for sure is why exactly is Trowa after her. Is it because he wants her? Just lust and pleasure? Or is it because he?s really interested in her? Maybe he really likes her, enjoys her presence and all that jazz. But Relena?s a hardhearted woman; she won?t believe he really likes her given his past/history with women. She thinks she?s just another date in Trowa?s agenda.

At the beginning we see it could probably be true since he?s so intense (make-out scene at her office, chapter four), and she?s thinks he?s after her with the sole purpose of satiating his libido (something she has said several times throughout the fic). But along the way, especially on chapter six, we see subtle changes in Trowa. We can see a genuine change in his demeanor, the things he said, and the way he acted around her. And Relena?s starts to doubt herself and his motives. She doesn?t want to be attracted to him because deep down, she still believes Trowa?s plans are just to bed her and cast her aside as he?s done with all his past conquests. She doesn?t want to become another patch on Trowa?s history.

Then the worst happened: Relena, after turning down Trowa that night after they left the restaurant (chapter six), and then fighting with him and being downright hostile during their ?date? early in chapter seven?she sleeps with some other guy (his identity is unimportant) and Trowa somehow finds out. Maybe he did go the next morning to pick Relena up for work and she saw him walking out (that?s what I pictured when writing that part). Imagine the rage he must have felt to learn that she could sleep with a complete stranger (at least to him; he doesn?t know if Relena know the guy or not) yet not him? Add to this a few too many drinks of whiskey and a temperamental guy, you get chaos.

Now, some people turn boresome, feeling depressed and things of the sort when they drink; others experience hyperactivity (me!), people who laugh and joke when they?ve drunk over their limit? and then we have the other group, those who act on their feelings, and can be quite hostile or violent when they get angry. Or jealous.

I do agree with your general dislike of Trowa?s behavior? but I believe, really believe it?s understandable. Imagine practically begging someone for something, let?s say? a piece of chocolate. And you beg, day in, day out and then after a while? They give that chocolate to someone else; and when you ask for another piece, they tell you ?no?. Man, that sucks!

I suck at giving examples?

Andrea, you did a good job of making Relena a strong person. Now she just needs to become a more substantial person--all that decadence is bad for her heart :-P
Well, this story can?t be all daisies and lilies. I?ve kept her strong throughout the story, even if I?ve made her more emotional, because as GG once said, she?s only human. She has the right to ?feel-. I don?t think of Relena as unsubstantial, au contraire! She?s strong-minded, hard working, and so emotionally complicated you?d wish she was more simplistic.

And as a small, miniscule tidbit, there are some points in this fic that come from personal referrence or experience. So some things may sound or seem outrageous, but they do happen.

I think that?s it; I?ve answered your questions. Take care, sweetie! And thanks again for your review! You make my heart go squee!!

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*goggles* :eek:

Mucho.

Truly, you are a guru of this sort of lifestyle. That you can understand it and are able to explain so objectively is amazing. I think my earlier comments are due to me being a subjective reader and fan

Thanks for the fyi's! VERY good backup evidence---you should be an attorney, yourself!

Substantial: to turn into the Relena that we all know and love! :wink:

But with the world's level of awareness nowadays, and so many loopholes and opportunities and alternatives, the behavior going on--even Relena's--just doesn't float with what a person--like Relena--has to go through. There shouldn't be any excuse for controlling a person like a puppet on strings. Papa and Mama Darlian are well-educated, accomplished individuals. How is it that they are so medieval? How can they rationalize it or justify it? It's just not good parenting.

*In a brief bout of Tourette's:
THOSE ELITISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:evil:

NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Never understandable! Trowa, you will regret your lecherous, violent activities! UNACCEPTABLE!! Don't you believe it, Relena! ----
*The Angry Angel suddenly sees Andrea's enlightened, practical, owner-of-this-fic head floating with omniscient presence, and Double A shrinks away from her onslought of condescension on Relena*

Now, mind me (do we have to?), Relena is young, and she has so much time to do with her life and all the insufferable people in it what she wants to do with it and what she doesn't want to do with it. Including deciding if the family _honor_ is worth the cost of her freedom and her divine, primitive, instinctive rights to determine her own destiny. The poor, misguided thing. And I DO think honoring the famliy is a very important, central principle a person should always strive for. But, when parents push it......

Here, I am scorning Papa Darlian and Mama Darlian and Alpha Male T-boy as the characters. I'm too sympathetic with Relena's superego--and parts of her id. They're being a bunch of jerk-offs at the moment, and I am SO sympathizing w/ R, or inaccurately imagining myself in R's shoes at having to endure that. And they say reel yourself in, stop being yourself and enjoying your life -- you must do this, this, and this for the _family_. Then is the 'famliy honor' worth it?

Another observation: 23 years old, and she's a partner at a premier law firm...

I thought kids were preparing for graduation at age 23 (a dramatization)! How is it Relena's already past that and the primary asset at a premier law firm? You go girl!! 8)

PS----there _were_ hints dropped that Trowa had become aware of R's monday morning bedmate??? :x Where?! I missed it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Siga escribiendo mi querida :salute: Eres la maestra. HWW quiero, adoro! Te disculpo! I'm just so into this fic! It's like...........an elixir of sin for this holy (cough, cough), vengeful angel. :lol:


Now,




........................................Can I have a piece of chocolate...? :roll: (imagine the Puss in Boots eyes)

*kithes!*
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Oh my god!!! plz tell me that at some point, towards the end, you are going to have trowa explain to relena his pov on all of this because the gods know that i'm dying ot know!!

Your work is really excellent you know, its really incredible, so keep at it ^_^
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The Angry Angel wrote:*goggles* :eek:

Mucho.

Truly, you are a guru of this sort of lifestyle. That you can understand it and are able to explain so objectively is amazing. I think my earlier comments are due to me being a subjective reader and fan

Thanks for the fyi's! VERY good backup evidence---you should be an attorney, yourself!

Substantial: to turn into the Relena that we all know and love! :wink:


It?s easier to me when I write to relate things to real life. I believe every single story I?ve written, there?s a habit, a scene, a song, a phrase, something, that comes from my life. In this case, this whole story is like a merger of great aspects of my life, multiplied to greater proportions, of course, booted up with some romance/fiction. My life isn?t as nearly as interesting as the story portrayed in this fic. I only wish.
But with the world's level of awareness nowadays, and so many loopholes and opportunities and alternatives, the behavior going on--even Relena's--just doesn't float with what a person--like Relena--has to go through. There shouldn't be any excuse for controlling a person like a puppet on strings. Papa and Mama Darlian are well-educated, accomplished individuals. How is it that they are so medieval? How can they rationalize it or justify it? It's just not good parenting.

*In a brief bout of Tourette's:
THOSE ELITISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:evil:


Well, then, I shall repeat myself by telling you it does happen. You see this kind of behavior repeated in other aspects of life and other cultures not your own. Why would people do something so outrageous, so ridiculous, so threatening, so dangerous, etc. if there isn?t any logical reason backing it up? It would seem unbelievable and probably ludicrous to the eyes of those who don?t understand.

But I?m blowing this out of proportion?Marriage is something some families take very, very seriously. There are those who feel great adversity to people of different religions, credos, race, origin, etc. And yes, I do believe it?s incredibly outdated, fascist, and ridiculous, but we still see this behavior in an every-day basis. You can?t really judge others based solely on your standards and beliefs; there?s a whole cornucopia of morals and manners that don?t relate to ?our- cultural beliefs.

Each family, in this case, Relena?s family, has high standards for the person that will eventually marry their only daughter. They?re aware that this very person will assume control of their business and assets eventually, plus they have the whole ?image? to defend. You clearly see this sort of thinking in Ericka and Kara throughout the story. Why would Kara agree to such mischievous plan if not to prevent her son of dating such common, ?disreputable? women?

NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Never understandable! Trowa, you will regret your lecherous, violent activities! UNACCEPTABLE!! Don't you believe it, Relena! ----
*The Angry Angel suddenly sees Andrea's enlightened, practical, owner-of-this-fic head floating with omniscient presence, and Double A shrinks away from her onslought of condescension on Relena*


I think I explained his behavior in my last comment. He was drunk, jealous and foolish. He was, quite frankly, out of control. He?s a person who acts on his emotions and right then, he wasn?t feeling quite centered.

Now, mind me (do we have to?), Relena is young, and she has so much time to do with her life and all the insufferable people in it what she wants to do with it and what she doesn't want to do with it. Including deciding if the family _honor_ is worth the cost of her freedom and her divine, primitive, instinctive rights to determine her own destiny. The poor, misguided thing. And I DO think honoring the famliy is a very important, central principle a person should always strive for. But, when parents push it......
Honestly, I think she?s very far from being ?misguided?. If you read carefully that scene between her and her father, I don?t think she ever said ?no?. Sure, she was disconcerted, confused and in shock, but perhaps she had been waiting for this moment because she knew it would come. Maybe she didn?t think it would be so soon. And especially not with Trowa, who just a few hours before she had realized she had feelings for and vice versa.

And on that last matter, imagine Relena; a free soul, unattached, who lives her life whichever way she pleases. She goes against her better wishes to please her mother. She?s never liked getting involved too deeply with anyone, but suddenly she finds out Trowa kinda likes her and that she kinda likes him. Her self-preservation instincts go haywire! And then! As if to make matters worse, her father finally decides to stop playing and dead and put his foot down? choosing Trowa, no less.

She?s shocked, completely shocked. She?s starting to doubt herself when she?s with him because of the way he makes her feel and the way she?s almost mindless around him. It?s even worse after finding out, by Trowa himself, that he likes her. He?s not just after her body, but he?s genuinely attracted to her. Now, I understand Trowa has a really particular way of showing his feelings, but give the guy a break. He?s not a man-whore for nothing!

So, add her general shock and confusion to this unexpected realization, plus her father?s imminent plans? She?s feeling lost right now.

Trowa, as I mentioned before several times, just went crazy-jealous after finding out she had slept with another guy, especially after she?d turn him down on more than three occasions. He gets drunk, goes beyond crazy and well? He lost it. It?s understandable. The real issue here is seeing how Relena will handle this and how Trowa will act once he realizes what he?s done to her.

Here, I am scorning Papa Darlian and Mama Darlian and Alpha Male T-boy as the characters. I'm too sympathetic with Relena's superego--and parts of her id. They're being a bunch of jerk-offs at the moment, and I am SO sympathizing w/ R, or inaccurately imagining myself in R's shoes at having to endure that. And they say reel yourself in, stop being yourself and enjoying your life -- you must do this, this, and this for the _family_. Then is the 'famliy honor' worth it?
Have you ever heard the saying ?how the other half lives?? Exactly. I don?t want you to sympathize with her parents if you don?t feel inclined to. I?m not going to make you liked them; hell, I don?t like them. But this is how this family works.

Another observation: 23 years old, and she's a partner at a premier law firm...

I thought kids were preparing for graduation at age 23 (a dramatization)! How is it Relena's already past that and the primary asset at a premier law firm? You go girl!! 8)
I?m 20 years old and I?m already a graduate. Plus, I never said she had graduated from university. As for her getting the position she currently has, it?s explained in chapter one. Pure luck and frivolous calculation.
PS----there _were_ hints dropped that Trowa had become aware of R's monday morning bedmate??? :x Where?! I missed it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Maybe twice or three times Trowa mentioned, quite sarcastically, that Relena can sleep with anybody else and not him. Quite coincidential these comments, especially after seeing he?s never even referred to Relena?s sex life in the past. Why now all of a sudden?

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freelight01 wrote:Oh my god!!! plz tell me that at some point, towards the end, you are going to have trowa explain to relena his pov on all of this because the gods know that i'm dying ot know!!

Your work is really excellent you know, its really incredible, so keep at it ^_^
Don't worry! Everything will work out in the end! I'm a sucker for happy endings!!

And thankies for your comments, Freelight! I love you!!! *huggles!!!*

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*corazones*

Entendido! :wink: Tu puntavista, mi puntavista. No tuviste que explicar a otra vez. No necesitaste! Es tu historia! Eres su diosa, su reina! Y yo puedo entender a todo lo has dicho. Es muy, muy bueno.

Lo que escribi es nada mas que mis respuestas a las situaciones en la historia--pobre Relena que pudo tener a una familia bella, y pobre y arrogante Trowa que se giro a alcohol por carino y en resulto se [lastimo] a la persona que quiere mas. Pero se aparece como la Relena Lo entiende.

Disculpas por volviendo demasiada a lado de Relena--(la Relena usual de Blissful Ignorance--no la Relena de HWW--quien es bien diferente).

Que chistosa a mi
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One more thing:

*realization hits*

:o Oooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... Gotcha.
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