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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 1:02 am
by White Witch
That's... disturbing, Mizaya-san. 13? You just have to talk sense into her. Ask her what's her problem. She may be pressured by peers, or thinks that popularity might come her way if she does that, or... well, anything.
If it is the popularity and coolness, tell her this: your moment of popularity at this point in time may be fun, but think about the future, when everyone's take on you could change. What's more important; being known right now, or holding your dignity forever?
...gosh, I sound like a peer counselor!
TO Miroku-san, what are you bartering for? If you wanna be devious, trick them into it. Barter an ofuda or something, and tell them it's gonna make them rich in time or... whatever, you decide.

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 2:35 am
by Heero
You can try to talk sense into her, there is hope. But there are a lot of kids out there that are just too messed up to turn back. She'll have to learn a lesson for herself. That's the only sure way that she'll give in. But try your best to talk to her.
Then again there is a good chance she is just lying. I don't want anyone to take this the wrong way, but those kind of kids don't usually hang out in a fan fiction site. And the subject matter in some of those stories may have pursuaded her to make up an interesting alter-ego. It's very common for someone to create an opposite personality on the internet. On the internet you are faceless, and no one knows the REAL you if you choose not to show them.
Now Miroku, sorry for not answering your question earlier, I'll go for it now.
-Look as unintrested in the item as possable, if they see you want it bad, they'll charge more.
-Start WAY lower than the intentional price. They'll think they're getting the most out of you that way.
-Money is not the only source of bargening. Use possestions too. And if you do, make sure to hype it up, whatever it is. Another thing to offer is slave-labor. IE: washing car, mowing lawn, etc...
-Stay as strong as possible and don't give in. And NEVER say "And that's my FINAL offer" too early. If the price you give in absurd to them, then they will lose intrest in you fast. Wait it out until you're in a reasonable price bracket.
And not that it's any of my buisness, but what ARE you trying to get. If you don't want to say, then don't. That's fine by me.
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 2:50 am
by Mizaya
Thanks for the advice, Heero and White Witch. I was planning on continuing to talk to her anyway and get a feel for whether or not she's being honest. I think I've just been in shock that someone who is the age of my own baby sister would have no problem referring to herself as a "slut" and making statements like "I bet I've done more stuff than you have" and "I gave an 18-year old head in the dressing room at Zumiez for some weed." If her being "more experienced" than me means that I haven't prostituted myself for drugs then more power to me! Bleh! The whole thing is just sick, whether it's true or not. Kids these days, I swear!

Now if someone would just explain why I attract the head cases.... That's the eternal mystery.
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 1:40 pm
by Miroku
i'd rather not say what it is <i>exactly</i> but it's something i didn't mean to give away. so now i'm trying to get it back.
i have a couple items i know he wants, and a bit of 'slave' labor won't kill me.
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 8:06 pm
by Katy-did Bug
Dear Heero,
Have you ever been to Mars? I was just reading up on "the Face." Freaky. I can see why in the '70's it was such a big deal. Anyways, if you haven't been or if you had, do you think there was a alien civilization that once made Mars its home. It just makes me all giddy. I always wanted to go to outer space and just explore. Yeah...and umm... thanks for answering all the other questions everyone.
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 4:20 am
by Heero
I think if we would have left Mars alone for another few billion years, then the miroscopic bacteria would have evolved into a civilization. But sorry, no life on Mars. However, in modern day A.C. 197, they have started colonizing Mars. But it will still be a few years before it's inhabitable.
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 7:04 pm
by Shinigamigrul
Der Heer
this is a really weird question....
How can i be less apathetic? its my friend's wish that i become more caring and be what he calls "a contrivuting member of society"... any advice?
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 9:33 pm
by Kaili Charmer
Okay, wow, it seems like i haven't been here in forever. Stupid wireless going *sizzle*
And with school starting back up! omg, someone shoot me.
I didn't really mean the shooting part, it was an impulsive statement.
Anywho, Miyaza- yeah, that story sounds strangely familiar. I'm trying to remember why...ah yes, back last year on the bus this chick who was a freshman was bragging about her sexual favors as well. Nasty. What's more? Around the same time, my relative (who was 18 at the time) decided to spill the beans about hers as well. EEEEESSH. I just don't understand. And then, both of them were like trying to talk to me about it as if they were suddenly more mature than I because of their "experience." Yes, this should sound familiar to you too. I really don't know what gets into kids' heads these days either. They are either out of control to begin with cuz their parents don't give a darn, they're crying for attention, or they're rid of the parents that "held them back" from this stuff and now they want to rebel. I personally ignore them now, because nothing helps. You can try talking, but really- this chick that's IMed you doesn't really know you, and she randomly IMed you. I think she might need some other help. I agree with heero, she maybe making it up.
I guess i'm sorta conservative and old-fashioned when it comes to that kinda stuff, but i really don't care. I like being a decent 16 girl, and i prefer calling my "inexperience" common sense. i could have done that stuff with someone older than i last summer, but i chose companionship over physical relationship. yay for me.
this was long, and you probably got all the help you needed already, so sorry.

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 10:55 pm
by Mizaya
That was very nice of you, Kaili! I appreciate your feedback a lot. The girl has continued to talk to me but she hasn't brought up those particularly disturbing things again. I think that she picked up on the fact that I wasn't impressed with it. She's moved on to telling me about how she likes to skip class

I think she's lost to any help I could offer her with sporadic, immature (on her part) IM conversations. I think she's too dense to get it *sigh* which means that she's too dense to be doing that crap, but I guess I just have to trust that she's either full of it or that her parents will catch on. :-?
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 8:07 am
by wicked
Shinigamigrul wrote:Der Heer
this is a really weird question....
How can i be less apathetic? its my friend's wish that i become more caring and be what he calls "a contrivuting member of society"... any advice?
I have the same problem. You see, it's society that has made me this way. I don't want to contribute to society because I don't like society and choose to stay away from it. I can never figure out (perhaps too lazy) if I have faith in the human race as a whole and dislike individual human beings or the exact opposite. I think it's the opposite. Now I have to think and I don't like doing that...usually.
I like apathy. It suits me just fine. It may not suit my friends but, meh, that's their problem. I am me and though I may not like me sometimes, it's better than being them no matter how much I actually do like or love them.
You are who you are and only you can change for your own betterment. Someone else may inspire you to change but only you have the power to do so. Do you feel like you need to care more and contribute to society? If so, then take your friend's suggestion. If not, tell your friend that you are happy with yourself as you currently are and that while their concern is appreciated it is not warranted nor needed. Perhaps the friend should be more understanding. *shrugs* All in all, the decision is up to you and how you feel.
Dear Heero,
I don't know if this was already covered and I apologize beforehand if it has. But after rewatching Endless Waltz you say, before passing out, that you won't kill again and that you don't have to. Do you consider this a promise or merely a statement? If we focus solely on the "don't have to" portion, does that mean that you won't ever kill again no matter what the circumstances or does it mean that you won't be forced to kill in a manner such as war but more along the lines of self-defense?
Again I apologize if this was previously asked. If so you may just disregard this portion of the post. Thank you for your time.
~Wicked